tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8565163061165974643.post3809659890537848833..comments2023-07-27T04:33:11.719-05:00Comments on UJ Thee and Me: BUDGETS -- A COMPARISONGracklehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14315763008609379449noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8565163061165974643.post-80509065755231453122010-07-06T20:12:56.879-05:002010-07-06T20:12:56.879-05:00Anon,
Now they're in for it! Of course, the B...Anon,<br /><br />Now they're in for it! Of course, the By-Laws could trump Robert's Rules.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8565163061165974643.post-81575834498622879902010-07-06T19:20:26.416-05:002010-07-06T19:20:26.416-05:00An ex officio member is a member of a body (a boar...An ex officio member is a member of a body (a board, committee, council, etc.) who is part of it by virtue of holding another office. The term is Latin, meaning literally "from the office", and the sense intended is "by right of office"; its use dates back to the Roman Republic.<br /><br />A common misconception is that the participatory rights of ex officio members are limited by their status. This is incorrect, although their rights may be indeed limited by the by-laws of a particular body. Robert's Rules of Order, Newly Revised (10th ed.), clarifies that the term denotes only how one becomes a member of a group, not what one's rights are. It is a method of sitting on a committee, not a class of membership. Frequently, ex officio members will abstain from voting, but unless by-laws constrain their rights, they are afforded the same rights as other members, including debate, making formal motions, and voting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8565163061165974643.post-58497599827845482212010-07-05T13:54:54.607-05:002010-07-05T13:54:54.607-05:00In other words, there is no real accountability?In other words, there is no real accountability?joebrown42https://www.blogger.com/profile/12742938285471843913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8565163061165974643.post-42415424685156026892010-07-05T07:55:50.564-05:002010-07-05T07:55:50.564-05:00Dear Anonymous,
"Hypocrisy" is defined ...Dear Anonymous,<br /><br />"Hypocrisy" is defined as "...feigning...to believe what one does not." As I set forth what I believe in each Post I write, I doubt if "hypocrite" applies. But...as I have written -- my community has consistently called for full funding of JFNA's needs as I have consistently argued for a responsible and responsive Budget proces. Unlike JFNA's leaders, my Federation does not squelch dissent.<br /><br />And, while I apprciate your research, it is faulty. I believe that I serve on JFNA's Board in an ex officio capacity. I have no vote (although my "votes" appear on the pages of this Blog).<br /><br />For a better example of hypocrisy, my friend, look at those who, for example, state at Committee and governance meetings that "this was the best Budget process that I have ever seen" when they know that to be untrue. Were you to have said that, would that make you a "hypocrite" (unless you really believe that, in which case that would make you ...ridiculous)?RWEXhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01583858140298821830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8565163061165974643.post-30088448814662030982010-07-05T00:02:00.394-05:002010-07-05T00:02:00.394-05:00Dick- Chicago voted for the budget at every opport...Dick- Chicago voted for the budget at every opportunity -- and you did not vote no or abstain on the Board vote -- hypocrisy?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8565163061165974643.post-31835451740710077402010-07-04T15:20:11.408-05:002010-07-04T15:20:11.408-05:00More on this subject in a Post soon. You will sure...More on this subject in a Post soon. You will surely want to debate my conclusions there, Paul. As to CRB, what you wrote initially speaks for itself.RWEXhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01583858140298821830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8565163061165974643.post-30622402242817423952010-07-04T15:15:18.066-05:002010-07-04T15:15:18.066-05:00The FED system, as we KNEW it to be, has already &...The FED system, as we KNEW it to be, has already 'died' - your posts (especially this one) prove it.<br /><br />I did not assert any timing in terms of when the CRB Foundation began - I asserted that C.Bronfman set a new model by having a Fndtn that he gave more $ to than his gift to the FED, and by hiring a top pro AWAY from the FED.paul jesernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8565163061165974643.post-52423516173064815352010-07-04T13:28:25.569-05:002010-07-04T13:28:25.569-05:00Dear Paul,
Sorry, my friend, but "the rumors...Dear Paul,<br /><br />Sorry, my friend, but "the rumors of the demise" of the federation system are very premature. We will devote an upcoming Post to this subject. <br /><br />Let's start with your mistaken assertion that Charles Bronfman began The Andrea and Charles Bronfman Foundation during his term as Chair of then UJC -- it was begun years before. The Foundation's engagement of Jeffrey Solomon as Foundation President also took place before UJC's birth -- in fact Jeff was the vital consultant to the merger effort.RWEXhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01583858140298821830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8565163061165974643.post-71967792657674169362010-07-04T12:05:35.780-05:002010-07-04T12:05:35.780-05:00Why would top-level lay leaders (as in the past) w...Why would top-level lay leaders (as in the past) want to be involved in the JFNA or in the FED movement?<br /><br />C.Bronfman set the new model during the time of the merger and when he was the UJC Chair by building his own foundation and hiring top professionals....<br /><br />Right/wrong, good/bad - we live in different itmes and the old model just doesn't work anymore.paul jesernoreply@blogger.com